A secessionist Freudian slip

My favorite part of the concurrent resolution described in my last post is this:

Whereas, the several states of the Untied States of America, through
the Constitution and the amendments thereto, constituted a general
government for special purposes and delegated to that government
certain definite powers, reserving each state to itself, the residuary
right to their own self government. Now, therefore,

Yep, you read that right, and all I did was copy and paste if from the online text of H. 3509. It does indeed say "the Untied States of America."

Hey, if you can't break up the Union one way…

20 thoughts on “A secessionist Freudian slip

  1. bud

    Yup, SC can sure come up with some dumb resolutions. Speaking of dumb. This is the gold or even platinum standard for dumb. This from the Florida State president trying to defend very serious sanctions FSU received:
    “We just don’t understand the sanction to vacate all wins in athletics contests in which ineligible student-athletes competed because we did not allow anyone who we knew was ineligible to compete,” FSU President T.K. Wetherell said in a statement.
    Somebody knew they were ineligible. This is the height of arrogance. FSU gained a significant competitive edge by allowing men to compete who did not meet academic qualifications. Damn straight the victories should be forfeited. Spurrier had it right when he called them the Free Shoes University.

  2. Birch Barlow

    Fortunately secessionists don’t exist anymore in any kind of significant numbers.
    No matter what you conspiracy theorists want to believe…

  3. Brad Warthen

    So far there are two comments on this post, and eight on the related one that precedes it.
    Now watch: If past patterns hold true, starting in 24 or 48 hours, there will be a sudden surge in comments, as the neoConfederates weigh in. This is something I’ve noted for as long as I’ve been on the editorial board. If you publish something about the Confederate flag or anything related to that general topic area, you will hear from a LOT of flag supporters or fellow travelers — but only after a delay.
    That’s because there’s a bunch folks who care DEEPLY about these topics, but who don’t read newspapers or keep up with current affairs in general — so their grapevine has to pick up what we published and pass it on (probably by e-mail at the fastest, or maybe even snail mail, or by postings on their topic-specific Web sites). Then we hear from them.
    The first few times this happened, years and years ago, I wondered at it. You publish something, and a couple of days later the reaction begins? Eventually, we inferred what was happening, or what was seeming to happen.
    I’ll be interested to see whether nullification as a topic works that way…

  4. bud

    Brad, there really are more interesting things to talk about than this nullification stuff. As for the rebel flag, that just needs to be left completely alone.

  5. penultimo mcfarland

    Bud, sweet bud, we finally agree on something!
    By the way, the pizza delivery shooting sent chills up and down my spine.
    Been there, done that, but I never toted a gun.

  6. Harry Harris

    Scarce or not, it’s unpleasant to me to see 31 of them in the SC General Assembly. There are plenty of Confederates in the attic.

  7. Randy E

    Since I moved to CT, I’ve been a little confused by the time zones. Is SC (and MS and GA) 1 or 2 centuries behind in the flag issue?
    bud “left alone” as in don’t post about it or NAACP should drop the issue?

  8. Greg Flowers

    Both, we fought the battle and a compromise was reached by our legislators as things are supposed to work in a representative democracy. No one is completely happy with it so it is probably a pretty good compromise and everyone should move on to other things.

  9. Workin' Tommy C

    As I recall, this bill did not originate in this state. What you should do, if you actually paid attention, Brad, is to observe how LATE our state is in getting on the bandwagon. That might be more productive than lamenting the fact that most folks don’t read your particular blog on regular basis.
    History is not over–it’s still happening. Can you really not comprehend the potential benefits of the states reclaiming at least some degree of sovereignty as a form of resistance? Perhaps if the former kingdoms of Germany had reclaimed their sovereignty in the face of warmongering or economic collapse, Hitler might not have risen to power.
    “Power to the people!” as a slogan seems to appeal to the modern fascists/socialists but when it comes to organizing and implementing that power in opposition to the apparent omnipotence of the central government, suddenly the slogan is re-interpreted by these spineless lock-steppers to mean “More power to the government!”
    BTW: I only got the notice on PNN of this blog posting this morning so please forgive me if I accidentally fall into the time frame explained by your conspiracy theory.

  10. penultimo mcfarland

    Good post, Tommy C. Now if we could just get the Connecticut whisperer to understand that 1) everything might not be about race and 2) the reason the Confederate flag is no issue in Connecticut is because New England was never a part of the Confederacy.

  11. Randy E

    PM, the KKK used the flag in their racist cause. The state flag was raised over the capitol in the early 60s largely because of the Civil Rights movement (the decade also saw a large defection of southerns to the republican cause).
    In CT, Independence Day is celebrated to a much greater extent than in SC where Confederate Day gets much more play among a certain segment of the population – patriotism vs provincialism.

  12. Greg Flowers

    All sorts of symbols have been used in manners that they were not originally intended including the American Flag and the Christian Cross (and the swastika which far antedates National Socialist Germany). That should not preclude the use of any of those today.
    The flag was placed atop the capitol in commemoration of the Centennial of the War. Many legislators felt it would be a boost tourism (discovered this after many, many hours going through legislative records doing research for the flag lawsuit in the mid 90’s, the Court never decided the case as the compromise was reached first.)
    On a per capita basis I doubt any State has given as many of its sons and daughters to national service than this one. Your statement that we lack patriotism strikes me as misinformed in the extreme.

  13. penultimo mcfarland

    Funny, but I’ve never played in a Confederate Day golf tournament. In fact, I didn’t know until your post, Randy, that there was such a thing as Confederate Day.
    But I have played in a good many Fourth of July golf tournaments.
    Like I said, everything isn’t about race, no matter what you think.
    Enjoy Connecticut. It’s the unfriendliest state I ever set foot in, New Jersey included.

  14. Randy E

    Greg, are you suggesting that service in the military is a function of state patriotism? Given that there is an over representation of African-Americans in the military, it would not be surprising that the southern states would have increased participation. Using your logic, we would also conclude that African-Americans are more patriotic because more of them serve. Interestingly, they are also less likely to wield a confederate flag or celebrate confederate day.
    In my initial search, the only data I found was military deaths by state. In the Iraq War, SC was 42nd by deaths per 100,000. CT was 51st.
    There is also a strong correlation between the death rates and per capita income of the states. This would indicate that military service may be also be a function of career opportunity.
    My point is Independence Day is a very big deal up here. In my 28 years in SC, I saw more concerted attention paid to confederate heritage.

  15. penultimo mcfarland

    MLK Day is a real big deal down here, Randy. You should be pleased about that.
    And if you think about it, you might understand why Independence Day is a bigger deal up there than it is down here. Connecticut is the “Constitution State”. South Carolina was the first state to secede from the Union.
    With residents and former residents like 50 Cent and Benedict Arnold, you should feel at home.

  16. Greg Flowers

    What I am saying is that national service is a better barometer of patriotism (not “state patriotism”)than having cook out and parades once a year. Celebration of a holiday does not make a person a patriot. If Connecticut is, in your opinion, so vastly superior, why if you are here do you not return there, or if you are there bask in its glory. Questioning the patriotism of South Carolinians is pointless even if it were true.

  17. Randy E

    Greg, many South Carolinians channel more effort towards provincialism rather than patriotism. I was there for 28 years and experienced it myself. That’s my point. You can dispute this all you want, but ignoring Glenn McConnell reenacting heritage every January 15th is not persuasive.

  18. Lee Muller

    Brad and some of his freedom-hating audience seem to be unaware that these efforts in state legislatures are a response to illegal encroachments of the federal government, and programs to label patriotic dissent against socialism as “terrorism”.
    * Police training which uses Ron Paul supporters, Constitutionalists, and property rights activists as examples of “terrorist thought”.
    * FEMA planning for mass arrests and detention without trial.
    * Obama’s call again this week for a federal domestic police force, larger than all the local and state police combined, to enforce plans for socialized medicine, nationalization of industry and banks, seizure of private savings, and disarming of law-abiding citizens.

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