The twits who exposed Sarah Palin’s e-mail

Well, you’ve got to love the irony here. Being busy putting out editorial pages, interviewing legislative candidates and reading about the Wall Street collapse and the energy bill in Congress when I had time to keep up with the news, I missed the stupid human trick of someone hacking into Sarah Palin’s personal e-mail. Someone mentioned it to me over lunch.

And here’s the schlag atop the dessert. The weasels who did this called themselves "Anonymous." Expose someone else’s correspondence and not have the guts to attach your own name to it? Wow.

There are, of course, people on the right trying to make it look like Obama’s folks did this. No way. Obama’s got too much class for that.

53 thoughts on “The twits who exposed Sarah Palin’s e-mail

  1. bud

    Sean Hannity was having a fit over this last night. But of course this is exactly the same thing the Bush administration is trying to do with his wiretapping and other assorted nonsense on the flimsy premise of “natinal security”

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  2. Lee Muller

    The solution is simple: arrest and prosecute, workingn backwards, starting with everyone who published this stolen personal information, starting with the two magazines.
    * Jail every writer, editor and IT person involved at “Wired” magazine.
    * Do the same for the other magazines.
    * Get a search warrant for their e-mail, to identify their co-conspirators.
    * Repeat until you have everyone who passed the email information.
    * Yahoo can provide the ISP and IP addresses of every hop.
    It’s time that Democrats learned they cannot violate the laws on identity theft and privacy by pretending to be journalists.

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  3. Brad Warthen

    No, it isn’t, bud. As you know, I couldn’t care less whether the gummint combs through my e-mail or phone calls in the course of looking for patterns in terrorist communication. Have at it.
    The thing about Big Brother is that he doesn’t turn about and publish your e-mail for the entertainment of the world. And that’s what’s tacky. And doing it anonymously is cowardly.
    You know, I knew when I posted this that someone would raise the whole privacy-vs.-national security issue and try to relate it to this. I started to address it ahead of time, but figured what’s the point — I’m not likely to have a meeting of the minds with those who disagree with me on the issue, and it really has nothing to do with this, so why waste my energy? I’ve addressed that issue before and will again, within a relevant context.
    But I at least expected whoever brought that up to acknowledge that the comparison was a stretch. I’m a bit taken aback by bud so blithely saying it’s “exactly the same thing.” I mean, if I AGREED with bud on wire-tapping by the gummint — which I don’t — I wouldn’t undermine the seriousness of my point by comparing it to this sort of juvenile stunt by a private party.

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  4. Lee Muller

    This is not a “juvenile stunt”.
    This is the daily dirt from the Obama campaign.
    It is also a 5-year felony in Alaska.
    It is also a federal felony, because it uses interstate telephone lines.

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  5. scott

    I cannot believe people are trying to pin this on obama’s people. they could not have tapped into Palin’s e-mail, I don’t think there is anyone supporting Obama smart enough to do it.

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  6. Lee Muller

    Oh, it wasn’t Obama’s people who stole Governor Palin’s e-mail?
    Who was it, “McCain’s people”?
    Every day, Obama’s people have been caught in some dirty trick, smear, lie, or illegal activity. Obama throws them overboard and declares he is, “Shocked! Shocked!”
    Yesterday, it was the lies about Rush Limbaugh on Hispanic radio.
    The day before, it was the revelation of illegal donations from Palestine.
    Face it. Obama is a slimy, lying, demagogue, and his supporters are suckers.

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  7. david

    This will indeed make Governor Palin stronger. She hasn’t got to somehow gain the high ground, at this point she has been given the high ground outright by these leftist thugs.
    When republican operatives and thugs used this type of tactic 40 years ago, a presidency was ruined. When democrat operatives and thugs do it,
    no one seems to care much.
    This outragehas hurt Obama…wait and see. His support among moderates and independents will further erode when this demonstration of moral bankruptcy is fully understood.
    David

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  8. Bill C.

    “No way. Obama’s got too much class for that.”
    ———
    Well that doesn’t say anything about some of the douchebags that are working for him.

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  9. Mike Cakora

    Brad –
    Your choice of the verb “exposed” instead of “leaked” — the word that AP used several times with the emails — was good. James Taranto points out that her email was stolen. “Usually this term [to leak] refers to a government agency or other organization’s failure to keep a secret. A leaker is someone who is authorized to possess information but not to disclose it.”
    From the report the AP obviously had access to more than a couple of the emails, but doesn’t play well with law enforcement:

    The Secret Service contacted The Associated Press on Wednesday and asked for copies of the leaked e-mails, which circulated widely on the Internet. The AP did not comply.

    If the AP received the proceeds from a bank heist, would they not turn the loot over to law enforcement? I’m sure they would, so I’m just a little puzzled by their refusal. Another strike against the press’s push for a shield law in my already pretty hefty book.
    The enthusiastic anarchists like the idiot who broke federal law by breaking into Palin’s account are not agents of Obama, but Obama will be seen as the one who benefits from such antics. His attacks on McCain coupled with his call for his supporters to get into the face of Independents and Republicans will only tie him closer to aggressive acts conducted on his behalf but not with his knowledge or permission.
    He really should take the advice of the Real Maestro.

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  10. Randy E

    There are two issues here. One is the hacking personal email accounts. It’s funny how the GOP zealots overlook the nefarious tactics used by those on the right – see W v McCain 2000.
    The other issue is the Palin administration’s (not the possible presidential one) systematic use of personal emails to circumvent the very transparency she champions. She lost any possible moral ground in this situation because of her actions. Two wrongs don’t make a right but the the second wrong doesn’t excuse the first.

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  11. p.m.

    So, let’s see, Randy E, she used her personal email address for something other than something exclusively personal, so let’s string her up!
    Like none of us have ever used our personal email address for something not entirely personal.
    You set high standards for Republicans, but after Obama spends 20 years in Jeremiah Wright’s racist church, Brad says he has too much class to publicize Palin’s e-mail workings.
    Baloney. The only issue here is someone hacking into Palin’s e-mail, not some Democrat bunny trail into the oil-soaked wilderness.

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  12. bud

    Brad, this is a good example of why you and I disagree on so many issues related to the government. You trust them explicitly and I don’t. Government officials, especially the Bush administration, just are not honest enough to allow them unfettered access to personal information. The founding fathers understood this. But you’re right the two situations are not exactly the same, government spying is potentially more dangerous and should not be allowed without tight court oversight and a damn good reason. Just ask the folks on the Nixon enemies list.

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  13. david

    Right p.m.
    Randys’ ridiculous post demonstrates precisely the moral bankruptcy and pure hypocrisy these flying monkeys on the left practice.
    A democrat member of the house has a homosexual partner running a brothel out of his home and we get silence from the left. A republican governor gets her private email accounts invaded, handed over to the goons at the AP and published…and we get the equivocating and fake moralizing seen from dingleberries and chuckleheads like Randy E. on the virulent left.
    This is moral bankruptcy on parade.

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  14. bud

    You folks on the right need to calm down a bit. No one’s disputing the hacking was illegal. But geez folks, if all she was talking about was grocery lists and dental appointments this would really not be much to this. Does she have something to hide? Was she conducting government business that she didn’t want subject to future evaluation exposed. Where was the outrage when the president lied about wire-tapping? You all sound like a bunch of whining babies. Wah, wah, wah. The Governor got hacked.

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  15. C

    Perhaps if Palin and her cronies in the Alaskan state gov’t didn’t use personal e-mail accounts for STATE business (to, in their own words, avoid subpoena), no one would have bothered investigating her “personal” email.

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  16. Lee Muller

    This is a foreshadowing of the sort of domestic spying an Obama regime would employ.
    Just like Jimmy Carter used the IRS to attack his critics.
    Just like Bill and Hillary Clinton stole the hundreds of FBI files on their political opponents.
    Just like FDR used the FBI to keep records and wiretaps of thousands of political opponents.

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  17. Phillip

    Brad says: “I couldn’t care less whether the gummint combs through my e-mail or phone calls in the course of looking for patterns in terrorist communication. Have at it….The thing about Big Brother is that he doesn’t turn about and publish your e-mail for the entertainment of the world.”
    Noooo…Big Brother would never do anything like that, or try to use wiretaps against domestic political opponents to try to blackmail them into committing suicide, noooo, that could never happen here…
    Yes, the Palin email thing is not like the government monitoring one’s communications, but since you once again went out of your way to make your point about surveillance, then I have to say that I continue to be puzzled that someone in the field of journalism can be so cavalier about the inherent pitfalls of such government surveillance.
    Even more puzzling is your support for wars like Iraq for the sake of supposedly spreading the very values and principles of freedom that at home you seem unconcerned about protecting. Still hoping you’ll come around, and sincerely hoping that it won’t take personal experience of government harassment of you someday as a journalist for that to happen.

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  18. jchris318

    How does one whose roots lie with the Chicago Southside political machine, and who has that army to thank for his political success, be described as having “too much class”? Please, isn’t anyone commenting on this post older than 25?

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  19. Ralph Hightower

    I don’t go along with Conspiracy Lee’s theory that the Obama political machine hacked into Palin’s personal and government Yahoo accounts.
    I thought it was just some script kiddies doing the hacking to get into Palin’s Yahoo account.
    But it was the college-aged son of a Democrat Tennessee legislator: Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy.
    But Palin is not conducting Alaska government in the open. The Anchorage Daily News has an news article on Governor Palin’s use of a personal email account (Yahoo): Governor’s two e-mail accounts questioned; BLACKBERRY: Is state business on private account really transparent?; one is a private account to conduct state business away from the scrutiny of public records.
    Then, there are the emails to the First Gentleman that Governor Sarah Palin claims is executive privilege. The Anchorage Daily News wrote an opinion article on Governor Palin’s emails to the “First Dude”, Privileged e-mails?
    Sorry, executive privilege doesn’t cover First Gentleman
    .
    According to the Alaska’s Attorney General’s opinion on Personal Use of Electronic Equipment AGO File No. 661-08-0388:

    We conclude that personal emails and call records are not public records and public disclosure of such personal information would likely run afoul of the individual’s right to privacy under the Alaska Constitution. However, because business related calls and business related email messages would also be generated through these personal devices, it is possible that a state official or a court could be required to review all call records and messages in order to locate the calls and email messages that concern state business and thus are public records. This issue is addressed in Part II of this opinion.

    All of this information is from news media and state government in the State of Alaska.
    What is she trying to hide from the public using Yahoo to conduct state business?

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  20. Lee Muller

    Pathetic spin in defense of the daily dirty campaign from OBama, Mr. Hightower.
    If you don’t have anything to hide, give us all your email accounts and passwords.
    I doubt that Obama or his staffers could stand to release all their e-mails.
    The son of a high-ranking Tennessee Democrat is accused of stealing Sarah Palin’s e-mails and giving them to other Democrats in the magazine business to spread around. Anyone who stole them and received them without immediately turning them over to the police is a thief, a criminal, a political criminal, seeking to help Barack Obama.

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  21. Ralph Hightower

    Mr. Muller,
    Since we live in a free society, we have a right to know how our elected and appointed officials run city, county, state, and federal government. Now, there are some instances where things should be kept private until after the fact, such as business recruitment, and actions to stop terrorist actions (though I do want to know who we stopped after the fact).
    Since you and I don’t live in Soviet Russia with the KGB, we deserve to know how our government is governed by our elected and appointed officials, so we can make an intelligent decision on who we should vote for.
    I am not an elected government official, nor am I an appointed government official. Therefore, my personal email addresses and my correspondence is none of your damned business! I sure as hell won’t reveal my passwords!
    If I were you, I would not believe the news that Rush Limbaugh spoonfeeds to you.
    I am not on any political mailing list, Obama, McCain, Republican, or Democrat. So the “Obama machine” did not script my addition to this blog posting.
    I did my own research on Sarah Palin. Since no one in the Lower 48 ever heard of her, I read newspapers in Alaska over the Internet. I suggest that you also read news from Alaskan news media. It appears that folks in the Lower 48 are as smitten with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as those don’t live in South Carolina adore South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford. It could be because Mark Sanford prefers to govern by issuing press release instead of meeting with members of the House and Senate. I would like to know what his appointment calendar looks like.
    The Alaska Attorney General’s opinion on the use of personal email accounts used for government business was published on August 21, 2008, before Sarah Palin was revealed as John McCain’s running mate. So her use of Yahoo email accounts was an issue before the Anchorage Daily News published the use of personal email accounts for government business. According to the AK AG’s opinion, her private email can be revealed upon subpoena.
    Judging from what I have read in The Anchorage Daily News, Governor Sarah Palin prefers to govern in obscurity and not everybody in Alaska adores Sarah Palin. She did clean up the ethics problems that Alaska has experienced, but in my opinion, she has her own ethics problems in how she governs Alaska. It appears that Dick Cheney has coached her as to how to hide governing behind smoke screens.
    I am an independant voter. I do not pull the “Blue” lever or the “Red” lever in the voting booth. There are some politicians that I would never vote for, such as former Senator Fritz Hollings.
    For the record: I voted for the loser of the Nixon/McGovern race; I just won’t tell you who I voted for in that race. I don’t remember who I voted for in the Ford/Carter race, but my wife is from Georgia and she said that Carter screwed Georgia when he was governor. I voted for Reagan twice, and George Herbert Hoover Walker Bush one, three times for Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and George W. Bush, his second time around. I also voted in the 2006 GOP gubernatorial primary; I voted for Oscar Lovelace.
    I am not a physician and I don’t play one on TV (although I did work for a doctor); I suggest that you make an appointment with your doctor and ask for this pill. BTW, I was probably the only one on the doctor’s staff that wasn’t taking this pill.
    Oh, WTF, here is one of my email addresses: [email protected].

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  22. Mike Cakora

    The FBI executed a search warrant this morning (Sunday, 9/21/2008) in the Palin email theft investigation.

    [A]gents with the FBI served a federal search warrant at the Fort Sanders residence of David Kernell early Sunday morning. Kernell lives in the Commons apartment complex at 1115 Highland Ave.
    David Kernell is the son of Mike Kernell, a Democratic state representative from Memphis.
    [Snip]
    Previous StoryThe son of state Rep. Mike Kernell has been contacted by authorities in connection with a probe into the hacking of personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, Kernell confirmed on Thursday.
    Kernell, a Memphis Democrat, said his 20-year-old son David had been contacted by authorities investigating the hacking of Palin’s personal email account.
    The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation on Wednesday into the hacking.
    David Kernell is a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. Mike Kernell said he spoke to his son on Thursday, as he does on a regular basis.

    They warned us that if Bush were re-elected, not even our emails would be safe; they were right!

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  23. Lee Muller

    Most of my work email is on secure servers, and only accessible inside that network. So is Governor Palin’s work e-mail.
    If I want to communicate with vendors, engineers and attorneys outside my secure email, I use a web mail account. So did Governor Palin.
    There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is necessary, in order to do business.

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  24. Lee Muller

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  25. Ralph Hightower

    Mr. Muller,
    I am well aware of firewalls and spam filters with external mail servers.
    Posted by: Lee Muller | Sep 21, 2008 10:35:59 PM:

    Most of my work email is on secure servers, and only accessible inside that network. So is Governor Palin’s work e-mail.
    If I want to communicate with vendors, engineers and attorneys outside my secure email, I use a web mail account. So did Governor Palin.
    There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is necessary, in order to do business.

    Your comment about having to use a web account to send email to the outside world does not hold water.
    If that were the case, why does South Carolina post the email addresses for members of the House and Senate on their bio pages? I didn’t check every member, but I noticed one House member, Kirsch, does not have an email address listed on his bio.

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  26. Lee Muller

    Every consultant and direct engineer and manager I know has secure email among themselves on a corporate server, outside email accounts, and a web mail account that crosses the boundary between the corporation and the outside business partners.
    Just like Palin had.
    People in business understand that she did nothing wrong. Democrats did the wrong by stealing her e-mail, and the journalists who distributed it should go to jail.

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  27. Ralph Hightower

    Gee, I learned something today. You and your consultant friends, and managers, have to be in the minority.
    I have never seen that practiced in businesses, corporations, or government, with the exception of the Town of Chapin, SC, which uses a Road Runner account. Lexington County Council members may or may not have a @lex-co.com email account.
    City of Columbia uses @columbiasc.net, State of South Carolina uses @department.sc.gov (except for those departments that have vanity domains, like the Attorney General and Dept. of Commerce, and others). Alaska uses @alaska.gov and @dept.state.ak.us. Even the tiniest state in the nation uses @ri.gov or @agency.state.ri.us.
    With the record keeping requirements of Sarbanes-Oxley, the use of private email accounts instead of corporate email accounts would be a violation for public firms and financial institutions. With the use of private email accounts, the corporate oversight of email is lost.
    Face the facts, Lee, Palin wanted to escape scrutiny of government records. Keep digging your hole deeper and deeper.
    Name one state government that lists a non-governmental account and provide the reference page and I will get off of your case. Otherwise, you are just blowing smoke.
    BTW, it was a Democrat that broke into Palin’s Yahoo account, not Democrats, as mentioned in Mike Cakora’s post.
    Maybe you and your buddies do business that way, but that is exception, not the rule.
    Microsoft Exchange and Novell Groupwise have web interfaces so that one can access their work email anywhere they may be. That might be something for you to consider.

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  28. Lee Muller

    Saying it was just “a Democrat” who heisted Sarah Palin’s e-mail account is like saying it was just “a Republican” who broke into the DNC headquarters at the Watergate Hotel.
    You don’t know how many Democrats were involved in this latest Obama scandal.
    Just like we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with the FEC investigation into the illegal campaign donations to Obama from Palestine.
    I do know that a lot of Democrats are making excuses for Obama’s criminal associates.
    I do know that a lot of the excuses are just copied from Obama talking points, by people who don’t know beans about e-mail systems, or the law, and who don’t care.

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  29. Ralph Hightower

    I knew that I shouldn’t have posted anything about the 20 year old Democrat because that was the only thing you addressed.
    I think how you handle email correspondence is not an industry standard practice.
    I find it ridiculous to believe that secure email servers cannot communicate outside of their domain.
    If you advise public firms and financial institutions to use Yahoo, or other private firms to send business correspondence, you are setting the companies up to violate the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.

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  30. Lee Muller

    I have worked as a consultant to Microsoft on the programming of Exchange Server and Outlook for their financial corporate users.
    Go blow your Sarbanes-Oxley smoke up some Democrat’s skirt, Ralph. They are eager to believe any BS about Obama not being involved in yet another criminal activity.

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  31. Ralph Hightower

    It seems that you don’t practice what you preach if you advocate the use of private email accounts for corporations.

    I have worked as a consultant to Microsoft on the programming of Exchange Server and Outlook for their financial corporate users.

    Being a Democrat or a Republican has no impact on configuring mail servers.
    Go off and find another conspiracy.

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  32. Lee Muller

    There was / is a conspiracy. You just don’t yet know how widespread it is.
    We know that one Democrat in Tennessee did not steal and spread Sarah Palin’s e-mails alone. There were accomplices, we know, at Wired magazine and other liberal publications which spread the e-mails.
    It’s just another crime by Obama supporters.
    You folks seem to accept it, just like with Clinton.

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  33. ernestt

    This is invasion of privacy pure and simple! There is NO excuse for this at all! It is bad enough to have the e mail account invaded. It is terrible to have this information spread all over the internet after failure to find “dirt”!!! There is no shame or ethics anymore! There is NO excuse big enough to excuse this despicable behavior.
    This young person vented his frustration for not finding “dirt” by posting not only the e mail contents but personal family photos for all to view!!! What a loser!!!
    We haven’t heard any comment from Obama condemning this incident! The local Tennesse Democratic Party has NOT condemned this action.
    We seemed to have forgotten some time in the 90’s a woman intercepted and recorded some salacious material on the phone. She later helped cause the revelation of a terrible scandal in DC that led to an impeachment trial. But when all was done and said, this woman had to face the music (justice) and pay some hard earned cash defending herself.
    This coward ran from his apartment with his friends when the FBI was closing in on the investigation and refused to face the music and consequences.
    You might expect this type of action from the GOP??? Surely not from the Democratic Party than champions privacy rights???

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  34. Lee Muller

    Democrats only make noise about the privacy rights of terrorists and socialists.
    FDR ran illegal wiretaps on thousands of Americans.
    Kennedy ran illegal wiretaps on thousands of civil rights advocates.
    Johnson ran huge spy operations on anti-war groups and his critics.
    Jimmy Carter used the IRS to spy on and harass his critics.
    Clinton stole 500 FBI files of their opponents, looking for blackmail information.
    Clinton and the Democrats built a huge, illegal database on gun owners, which was found and dismantled by the Bush administration.

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  35. Ralph Hightower

    I expected such a response from Lee; instead of getting an answer that I posed, Lee responded with more parroting of Rush Limbaugh rantings.
    Why does Governor Palin have to use a Yahoo account for government email correspondence when she could use [email protected] or [email protected]?
    Just because Lee and his buddies configure mail servers as an island unable to connect to other mail servers, requiring businesses to use a Yahoo account or other free web email service for outside business correspondence does not make it the right or proper way to configure mail servers.
    There are secure mail servers and then there are SECURE mail servers. Secure mail servers are those operated by businesses and government for normal email correspondence; SECURE mail servers are those mail servers reserved for military use, such as CENTCOM, and ultra-top secret communication between the president and the military.
    Oh, I forget, Mr. Muller is a Rush Limbaugh dittohead; according to Limbaugh in his commercials, he is always right. Even when Limbaugh is dead wrong!
    I suspect that Lee can’t give a valid reason for Governor Palin’s use of a Yahoo account for government business.
    ernestt,
    According to the Anchorage Daily News, there is valid concern in Alaska that Sarah Palin is using a Yahoo account for government business. Alaska’s Department of Administration asked for the Attorney General’s opinion on the use of personal email accounts in conducting government business and the Attorney General issued an opinion that Governor Palin’s email on Yahoo could be subpoenaed.
    You say that the emails revealed no government business was done on Yahoo. I disagree with that. Based on the subject line posted on Wikileaks, there are at least a dozen emails that are probably government business. All of these people are Governor Palin’s staff.

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    David Kernell broke two laws:

    1. breaking into another email account;
    2. using “pretexting”, pretending to be someone else to get priviledged information.

    Lee,
    You never answered my question; you just did more ranting about Democrats.
    Lee, why does Governor Palin have to use a Yahoo account for government email correspondence when she could use [email protected] or [email protected]?
    Please stick to the question at hand. I have heard all of your canned rantings.

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  36. Lee Muller

    Why don’t Obama and Biden open up their private e-mail accounts, and show us that they don’t conduct have any work-related correspondence in them?
    The same reason Obama lies about his associations with swindlers, socialist radicals and Muslims in the Middle East.

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  37. Ralph Hightower

    “Not Me” Lee continues pointing fingers at Democrats while ignoring what the staff in the Bush administration did. Also, failing again to answer my question.
    I have not found any news reports to suggest that Obama or Biden are using personal email accounts to avoid government accountability. I suggest reading The Anchorage Daily News to learn more about this unknown Sarah Palin from Alaska. I found out from ADN that Governor Palin is using personal email accounts to circumvent government accountability.
    The Use of RNC E-mail Accounts by White House Officials:

    • The number of White House officials given RNC e-mail accounts is higher than previously disclosed. In March 2007, White House spokesperson Dana Perino said that only a “handful of officials” had RNC e-mail accounts. In later statements, her estimate rose to “50 over the course of the administration.” In fact, the Committee has learned from the RNC that at least 88 White House officials had RNC e-mail accounts. The officials with RNC e-mail accounts include Karl Rove, the President’s senior advisor; Andrew Card, the former White House Chief of Staff; Ken Mehlman, the former White House Director of Political Affairs; and many other officials in the Office of Political Affairs, the Office of Communications, and the Office of the Vice President.
    • White House officials made extensive use of their RNC e-mail accounts. The RNC has preserved 140,216 e-mails sent or received by Karl Rove. Over half of these e-mails (75,374) were sent to or received from individuals using official “.gov” e-mail accounts. Other heavy users of RNC e-mail accounts include former White House Director of Political Affairs Sara Taylor (66,018 e-mails) and Deputy Director of Political Affairs Scott Jennings (35,198 e-mails). These e-mail accounts were used by White House officials for official purposes, such as communicating with federal agencies about federal appointments and policies.
    • There has been extensive destruction of the e-mails of White House officials by the RNC. Of the 88 White House officials who received RNC e-mail accounts, the RNC has preserved no e-mails for 51 officials. In a deposition, Susan Ralston, Mr. Rove’s former executive assistant, testified that many of the White House officials for whom the RNC has no e-mail records were regular users of their RNC e-mail accounts. Although the RNC has preserved no e-mail records for Ken Mehlman, the former Director of Political Affairs, Ms. Ralston testified that Mr. Mehlman used his account “frequently, daily.” In addition, there are major gaps in the e-mail records of the 37 White House officials for whom the RNC did preserve e-mails. The RNC has preserved only 130 e-mails sent to Mr. Rove during President Bush’s first term and no e-mails sent by Mr. Rove prior to November 2003. For many other White House officials, the RNC has no e-mails from before the fall of 2006.
    • There is evidence that the Office of White House Counsel under Alberto Gonzales may have known that White House officials were using RNC e-mail accounts for official business, but took no action to preserve these presidential records. In her deposition, Ms. Ralston testified that she searched Mr. Rove’s RNC e-mail account in response to an Enron-related investigation in 2001 and the investigation of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald later in the Administration. According to Ms. Ralston, the White House Counsel’s office knew about these e-mails because “all of the documents we collected were then turned over to the White House Counsel’s office.” There is no evidence, however, that White House Counsel Gonzales initiated any action to ensure the preservation of the e-mail records that were destroyed by the RNC.

    The Presidential Records Act requires the President to “take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of his constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented … and maintained as Presidential records.” To implement this legal requirement, the White House Counsel issued clear written policies in February 2001 instructing White House staff to use only the official White House e-mail system for official communications and to retain any official e-mails they received on a nongovernmental account.

    The PDF files on the above provide link provides interesting insight to the shenanigans in the Bush White House.

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  38. Lee Muller

    Leftist ridicule John McCain for not using email,…
    ….and ridicule Sarah Palin for using e-mail with any expectation of privacy.
    By way of educating you…
    John McCain has on several occasions over the years said that he does not like to type or use a computer because it hurts his elbow on the arm he broke when he was shot down in Vietnam.

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  39. Lee Muller

    Why hasn’t Obama handed over all his emails and over correspondence with Bill Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Percy Sutton, Kahlid Monsour and other radicals, like his official blogger, Sam Graham-Felsen?
    Why did the Obama campaign remove the orignal Obama web pages created by that communist pal of Bill Ayers and Obama, Mike Klonsky of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party?

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  40. Ralph Hightower

    Nobody ridiculed McCain about his email habits or lack thereof in this blog topic, elsewhere in another of Brad’s blog entries, probably.
    Karl Rove must have been tutoring Governor Palin on how to circumvent leaving permanent records on government business.
    In the House Oversight Committee’s document The Use of RNC E-mail Accounts by White House Officials:

    In fact, the White House policy from the first days of the Bush Administration has been clear:
    use only the official e-mail system for official communications and retain any official e-mails received on a nongovernmental account.
    A February 26, 2001, memorandum from Alberto Gonzales, Counsel to the President, to White House staff stated:
    e-mail is no different from other kinds of documents. Any e-mail relating to official business therefore qualifies as a Presidential record. All e-mail to your official e-mail address is automatically archived as if it were a Presidential record, and all e-mail from your official e-mail address is treated as a Presidential record unless you designate otherwise. … [I]f you happen to receive an e-mail on a personal e-mail account that otherwise qualifies as a Presidential record, it is your duty to ensure that it is preserved and filed as such by printing it out and saving it or by forwarding it to your White House e-mail account.25
    The February 2001 White House Staff Manual similarly stated:
    Federal law and EOP policy require the preservation of electronic communications that relate to official business and that are sent or received by EOP staff. As a result, you must only use the authorized e-mail system for all official electronic communications.

    The data retention policy on RNC mail servers is 30 days for email messages. The retention of White House mail servers is indefinite.
    How about posting some facts, with references, instead of innuendo?
    You continue to refuse to answer my question as to why employees of the State of Alaska (@alaska.gov) cannot send or receive mail to their constituents, businesses, other states or the federal government.
    Again, I find it ridiculous that you and your buddies would configure mail servers to be an island unto themselves and unable to send or receive email from outside mail servers. That configuration is certainly not the norm!

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  41. Ralph Hightower

    Lee,
    Instead of bitching and moaning about Obama, do something! Quit you bitching and file a Freedom of Information Act asking for Obama’s oemails and correspondence with Bill Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Percy Sutton, Kahlid Monsour and other radicals, like his official blogger, Sam Graham-Felsen.

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  42. Ralph Hightower

    Lee,
    I think I finally understand where you are coming from.
    If a Democrat breaks the law, throw ’em in jail without chance of parole.
    If a Republican breaks the law, just let ’em go.
    Sorry, but I have a different view of justice than you have. I feel that justice should be applied regardless of political party.
    You are an idiot for the following reasons:

    • Believing that Republicans do not break laws.
    • Believing that laws only apply to Democrats.
    • Not realizing that federal, state, and local governments are supposed to keep records of correspondence, meetings, etc. for the public record. It may take a Freedom of Information Act request to get the information, but the information must exist.

    Posted by: Lee Muller | Sep 22, 2008 3:59:37 PM:

    I have worked as a consultant to Microsoft on the programming of Exchange Server and Outlook for their financial corporate users.

    And you still don’t know how to configure Microsoft Exchange to communicate with other mail servers?
    Posted by: Lee Muller | Sep 21, 2008 10:35:59 PM

    Most of my work email is on secure servers, and only accessible inside that network. So is Governor Palin’s work e-mail.
    If I want to communicate with vendors, engineers and attorneys outside my secure email, I use a web mail account. So did Governor Palin.
    There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is necessary, in order to do business

    Lastly,

    • For configuring mail servers as an island, unable to send email to or receive mail from the outside world.

    How you and your buddies configure mail servers has to be less than 0.01% of the mail servers on the internet. Your method of configuring mail servers puts an extra burden on businesses with the requirement to use Yahoo or some other independent email provider that provides web access to email. As I mentioned earlier, Microsoft provides a Web interface for Exchange/Outlook, so one can access their email whether they are at work or on the beach.
    This is my last exchange with a “brick”.

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  43. Ralph Hightower

    Tennessee politician’s son indicted in Palin hacking:

    David Kernell was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury in Knoxville and faces a maximum of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervised release. Trial is set for Dec. 16.

    This is just an excerpt of the article from Anchorage Daily News; click on the link to read the rest.

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  44. Ralph Hightower

    Judge: Palin must preserve e-mails on private accounts

    Andree McLeod just stopped by the Legislative offices, after the hearing this morning on her lawsuit against Gov. Sarah Palin and the state.
    Looks like McLeod won at least parts of what she’s asking for – to force the governor to retrieve or preserve any e-mails she’s written on private accounts that deal with government business.
    She carried a copy of the order signed by Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers.
    “Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and the office of the governor of Alaska … are ordered to preserve all e-mails (including attachments thereto) sent between December 4, 2006, and the resolution of this litigation…”
    But the judge didn’t approve another of McLeod’s requests, which would have forced Palin to stop using private accounts to talk about state business.

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  45. Payday Loan Advocate

    According to this recent release from CNN, David Kernell, the son of a member of the House of Representatives, Mike Kernell, allegedly reset the password and accessed the personal e-mail account of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. He also allegedly read the contents, took a screenshot of her directory, and got into her address book information. Her address book contained the contact information including cell phone numbers of family members as well as birthdates and other information. He also then allegedly posted all of this including the password on a public website. After turning himself in, he pled not guilty. Kernell faces up to 5 years in prison, 3 years of probation and supervision after release, and up to $250,000 in fines. Think about this: to pay that down, he would have to take almost 200 payday loans at the maximum allowed amount of $1,500.
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