My beef with the newest NYT app

The old app: This is the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it...

The old app: This is the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it…

Being invited by email to complete a survey for The New York Times, I said this when they asked me why I liked reading the paper best on my iPad app:

It works well for me. But I prefer the old app to the new one, for the simple fact that I can see the name of the author of an opinion piece before clicking on it. That’s important to me, because there are certain columnists I don’t want to miss. I have no idea why that feature is missing in the new app.

See what I did there? I told them what I didn’t like about it, even though they didn’t ask that. I’d been looking for a chance to get that gripe in, and I figured this was my chance. I’m putting it on my blog now on the slim chance that it might get to the attention of someone who can do something about it this way.

It’s a small thing, but it makes a big difference in my enjoyment of the paper, as well as in its usefulness to me.

The NYT keeps trying to get me to read the new app. Although I have it on my iPad, I don't. And won't, as long as the old one works.

The NYT keeps trying to get me to use the new app. Although I have it on my iPad, I don’t. And won’t, as long as the old one works.

Over the years, I have come to spend most of my time interacting with newspapers reading the opinion pages. I prefer that to “straight” news. I like getting my information within the context of an argument. Don’t just tell me who, what, where… tell me what you think of it, and I’ll decide what I think of what you think of it.

This is a deeper way of engaging with news than reading the front page. I’ve written about this a number of times over the years. I find that there are certain questions I want answered about an event or an issue, and too often those questions don’t even occur to “straight” news reporters. Why? Because they’re not trying to figure out what they think about the event or the issue, so they approach it on a more superficial level.

When you’re going to make an argument about something, and thousands of people are going to read that argument and judge it, you think harder about it. And yes, this process works best with people who do it for a living. The same principle seldom applies in the case of the loudmouth on the barstool proclaiming his own gut impressions to everyone around him. Not necessarily because the professional is smarter; he’s just doing it within a more demanding context. And doing it day in, day out. And when you’re doing it for a living, and even more so when you’re syndicated, or appearing in a publication with famously high standards — such as the NYT — you’ve got to prove yourself every day.

And while I will sometimes click on a piece purely because of the headline, I’m just much more likely to do so when I see it’s by someone whose thoughtfulness I’ve come to respect.

And no, it’s not about just reading people I agree with (although I’m sure it would work that way with a lot of people, such as the blowhard on the barstool, assuming he reads). It’s about reading people who, whatever they think, have demonstrated to me over and over that they will make a good case well. I like people who make me think, “He’s wrong, but he almost convinces me…”

By the way, this preference of mine came into play when I became editorial page editor of The State in 1997. I immediately started requiring my writers to write at least one column a week, in addition to editorials (which by definition are not signed, because they speak for the institution rather than an individual, and represented a consensus of the board). I did this so that readers would see the editorial board less as a monolith, and know the people who crafted our positions. But I also did it because it made the page more the kind of page I liked to read myself.

These days, some of my favorites in the NYT are David Brooks, Bret Stephens and Ross Douthat. And yes, those three have some views in common with me — they are all never-Trumpers, and none of them are Democrats.

What that means is that, in explaining the problems with the current occupant of the White House, they have to think harder about their views and how they want to express them — unlike someone like Paul Krugman, who is painfully predictable. I’ve never been able to stand Krugman, as I’ve said many times before — although if the headline intrigues me, I may read even him.

I keep thinking at some point the NYT will upgrade the new app so that it shows the bylines. But they haven’t yet…

The new app: This is NOT the way I like it.

The new app: This is NOT the way I like it.

 

 

7 thoughts on “My beef with the newest NYT app

  1. bud

    These days, some of my favorites in the NYT are David Brooks, Bret Stephens and Ross Douthat.
    What that means is that, in explaining the problems with the current occupant of the White House, they have to think harder about their views and how they want to express them —

    I could not disagree more. These 3 are among my least favorite opinion writers. They occupy a worldview that I absolutely detest. They are false equivalency warriors. And they are very predictable in their approach to any topic. Stephens wrote this absolutely deplorable piece about how we should consider the opinion of folks who are skeptical of global warming. No. We. Should. Not. I would much, much rather read an actual global warming denialist than to read that prevaricating crap that Stephens writes. These guys aren’t thoughtful, they’re just annoying. Damn it state an opinion and defend it. That’s why I like Krugman and to a certain extent Bill Kristol. Now those guys can craft an argument, not a pile of mush.

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      1. Brad Warthen Post author

        No, I will say this… not for Bud’s benefit, but for those of you who might be open to my point.

        Some of you see, don’t you, how if you are someone labeled a “conservative” and you’re a thoughtful person, you’re going to be working harder to figure out where you stand and how to explain such a horrific moment in American history. Liberals can just rant the way they usually do against Republicans (see “Krugman, Paul”), perhaps with an added dash of passion, but without having to think hard about what’s going on or re-examine their own world views.

        Conservatives have to struggle, and that makes them far more interesting. Of course, I’m talking about “conservatives” who think and write for a living. People who express themselves in bumper stickers can just go with the flow. But people who express their views in 700-1,000-word chunks have to THINK to keep from making asses of themselves.

        And that makes them fascinating to read.

        The problem with many (not all, certainly) writers to the left these days is that they approach Trump as just another Republican, and think what’s going on is a continuation of the perpetual contest between the parties. That’s why I’m more interested in what the “Never Trumpers” have to say — because they have to look at what’s REALLY happening, and try to describe it.

        Here is Bret Stephens providing clarity on the Mueller moment:

        Let’s specify what the fiasco is not. It’s not that there was nothing for Mueller to investigate. It’s not that he uncovered no wrongdoing. It’s not that the president did not act in suspicious ways, epitomized by his appalling performance at Helsinki. It’s not that he didn’t lie and mislead, not least about his business ties in Russia. It’s not that the Trump campaign wasn’t studded with people who were, at a minimum, profoundly vulnerable to Russian blackmail. It’s not that the Kremlin didn’t actively seek to interfere in the election, with a favorable eye toward Trump’s candidacy.

        Pace the president and his sycophants — the ones who spent nearly two years casting aspersions on Mueller’s integrity, only to now hail his conclusions as dispositive — the nature and extent of Trump’s ties to Russia required a thorough investigation. It got done. Barring some major discrepancy between the attorney general’s summary of Mueller’s report and the report itself, it’s time to say: Case closed. Thank God the president is not a Russian stooge.

        The fiasco was to assume that the result of Mueller’s investigation was a forgone conclusion. And to believe that the existence of dots was enough to prove that they had to connect. And to report on it nonstop, breathlessly, as if the levee would break any second. And to turn Adam Schiff into a celebrity guest. And to belittle or exclude contrarian voices….

        Or Max Boot, making sure no one loses sight of what Trump is:

        So President Trump is not guilty of criminally conspiring with Russia to win the 2016 election. But he is guilty of being a lousy president.

        He made that clear after the completion of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation. Instead of following Winston Churchill’s advice (“In victory: magnanimity”), Trump was venomous and vengeful. He repeated his Stalinist assertion that the media are the “Enemy of the People” and vowed to exact revenge against the assorted traitors and evil-doers who had probed his connections with Russia. Trump is reminding us that he lacks even an iota of the dignity or decorum that we used to take for granted in the Oval Office….

        Or David Brooks, on the fact that too many in the political sphere have come to rely on scandal to bring their adversaries down, rather that working to win others over to their point of view:

        Maybe it’s time to declare a national sabbath. Maybe it’s time to step back from the scandalmongering and assess who we are right now.

        Democrats might approach this moment with an attitude of humility and honest self-examination. It’s clear that many Democrats made grievous accusations against the president that are not supported by the evidence. It’s clear that people like Beto O’Rourke and John Brennan owe Donald Trump a public apology. If you call someone a traitor and it turns out you lacked the evidence for that charge, then the only decent thing to do is apologize.

        Republicans and the Sean Hannity-style Trumpians might also approach this moment with an attitude of humility and honest self-examination. For two years they’ve been calling the Mueller investigation a witch hunt. For two years they’ve been spreading the libel that there are no honest brokers in Washington. It’s all a deep-state conspiracy, a swamp. They should apologize for peddling the sort of deep cynicism that undermines our country’s institutions….

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        1. Brad Warthen Post author

          By the way, I was using the term “conservative” loosely above. Brooks gets labeled as that, but I tend to think of him as a sort of communitarian centrist. Which is to say, I agree with him a lot — and I find him often writing things I wish I’d written myself. Such as in this piece, which I may do a separate post on…

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        2. bud

          See how this works. Sean Hannity is a vile, disgusting person. So there must be someone on the other side who is equally vile. Brooks chooses John Brennan?? Wow! I have no words.

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            1. Brad Warthen Post author

              Nor did he say “Brennan is vile.” Not in any way.

              He’s not dividing the world into vile people and nonvile people. Maybe you’re not used to reading the thoughts of someone who doesn’t do that.

              Maybe it’s why we often have trouble connecting. Maybe that’s what you think I’m doing when that’s not what I’m doing…

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