Monthly Archives: November 2006

World Premiere: “Election Day 2006”

Roll out the red carpet! You are invited to be among the first to view a brand-new, ground-breaking documentary from the studios of bradwarthensblog productions.

The facade is ripped away from a mediocre election, as your host reveals shockingly low turnouts and stunning personal stories from the mean streets of Rosewood.

Enjoy…

Tune in tonight for Blogger Madness!

My cell phone just rang, and it was Nichole at Rosewood Market, reminding me in the nicest possible way that I owe the deli a little over $7 for a lunch I apparently charged back in August. I don’t remember it, but I’m sure she’s right.

Anyway, she goes on to tell me that she thought I did a good job during the ETV debate for superintendent of education candidates a couple of weeks back, and I thanked her (I’ll pay seven bucks for such feedback any time).

All of which reminds me to tell you to Tune In Tonight for ETV’s election night coverage from 7 to 11 (or whenever), featuring yours truly and my video sidekick-in-training, Andy Gobeil, plus a cast of several.

The coolest part, from what Andy tells me, is that among those several will be some of my fellow bloggers: Our good friend Laurin Manning of the Laurinline, our regular correspondent Joshua Gross of SC Hotline, and Roxanne Walker, who describes herself as "the girl who scares the boys." So I’ll keep an eye out for her.

Roxanne, by the way, passes on what has seemed so far to be the Big Story of the Day so far, which was the governor’s difficulty establishing his ID in order to vote. She quotes Tim Grieve on Salon.com as imbuing this event with Great Significance. Hey, we bloggers work with what we get.

How’s YOUR turnout?

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H
ow’s the turnout at your precinct?

It was pretty light at mine around 9 a.m. (See above). I had one guy in front of me, and that’s only because my last initial is "W."

I made this happen, you know. Yesterday was a perfectly clear day, and then when I stopped for gas on my way home last night, I decided to opt for a car wash, too — like the second time in my life I’ve ever done that.

Anyway, I offer my apologies to all the Democrats out there that we endorsed. Sorry to damage your turnout. As for you Democrats we didn’t endorse, tough. Better luck next time. (I’m going, of course, by the old saw about how Republicans turn out no matter what the weather. I’m still not sure that’s true.)

As for our favored Republicans who are benefiting (in theory) — you don’t have to thank me. The car needed washing anyway.

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Anton Gunn’s signs

FYI, I just received this e-mail from Anton Gunn. This is a shame. The fact that it happens all the time is no consolation. And you almost never find out who did it, which just sows suspicion and resentment all around.

Mr. Gunn is a good guy, and I hope he gets some justice with regard to this willful destruction of his property. In the meantime, I commiserate:

    I just thought that I would let you all know that tonight I filed a telephone complaint with the Richland County Sheriff’s department. The complaint involved the vandalism and destruction of my property, my campaign signs. Today, I noticed at six different locations throughout House District 79, my 4 foot by 8 foot campaign signs had been knocked down, cut in half, cut in fourths or otherwise destroyed. The damage to these signs was obliviously done by some individual or individuals. I have not been able to assess at this point whether more signs have been vandalized in the district, but I suspect there are more. I don’t know who would do such a thing, nor do I care at this point. What I do care about is the underhanded, childish nature at which some people would stoop to inhibit my campaign to bring new leadership to our district.
    This vandalism is an example of what’s wrong with our political process. Destroying others property is not necessary nor does it improve the public’s perception about the process. I am an honest straight-forward person who has run my campaign in that same fashion. I offer the voters in this district the opportunity to see a candidate with character, dignity and humility. It is a shame that others are not reciprocating that behavior because of their juvenile acts.

Anton J. Gunn
Democratic Nominee
SC House District 79
anton@antongunn.com

 

Adjutant General Shocker!!!

Stan Spears is speaking to my Rotary club as I type — an actual campaign appearance!

After the way he ducked talking to our editorial board or appearing on ETV, this feels weird.

Of course, he’s not talking about the election. He’s talking about what a wonderful job "my people," as he puts it, are doing.

Oops, he just indirectly mentioned his opponent, by denying something he’s been criticized for.
Gotta go … bye.

Golly, we must really be bugging them…

Don’t feel so bad for Karen Floyd, those of you who inexplicably think I was being mean to her by showing clips in which she expressed distress at having her quite lovely image recorded (See recent post).

Her friends are doing it to us, too. You know, the ones financed by Howard Rich — at least, we have reason to believe they’re financed by Howard Rich. (When an organization files a lawsuit to prevent having to disclose its donors, it’s hard to say for sure.) I think it would be instructive to compare the relative fairness of these two YouTube portrayals. Of course, I can write many of your responses in advance — the ones that are no more original than this video — but it’s worth waiting for the thoughtful ones to weigh in eventually.

I post a couple of clips showing Mrs. Floyd to be charming and even witty, if a tad vain (aren’t we all). I sincerely doubt that many people would decide for or against her on the basis of that post. It’s pretty neutral. Meanwhile, our friends at SCouRGe post something that … well, just watch it. It’s tiresome.

My favorite part is "the California-based media empire that controls The State newspaper is trying to influence our elections in various ways." And then it mentions, bizarrely, an endorsement from two years ago, when McClatchy’s involvement with The State wasn’t even a twinkle in Bruce Sherman’s eye. I look around at my colleagues — the same bunch that’s been here roughly 20 years, doing our best for our home state no matter who the owner of record is — and everybody looks the same as before to me. We’ve had two such owners in that time, and both have had the same policy — hands off of editorial. Which is why we’re all still here.

Of the twelve people on executive staff on which I also serve, there is one woman who used to work in California — but that was the L.A. Times (a Chicago Tribune-owned paper), and she was here long before McClatchy.

Some would think the bit about calling us "liberal" is funnier, but I’d have to go with the California thing. (And the "spiking stories in the newsroom" bit — I guess whatever it is, they’re spiking it, too, since they don’t tell us what it was. In any case, not my department.)

It’s kind of cool when somebody wants to trash you, and this is the best they can come up with. Maybe they’ll do another one in which we are all portrayed as space aliens. Personally, I would find that more credible. But let’s not get into that; you wouldn’t grok it anyway.

I guess our stressing the fact that they only exist because rich out-of-staters want to hijack then agenda in SC is getting to them, and this is the best they could do.

‘Just dreadful’

Since I started shooting video clips of candidates early this year, the one who protested the most vociferously to being on camera was Karen Floyd, who is arguably the most telegenic candidate running for major office this year. I thought that sort of ironic. She finds being photographed at all — video or still — "just dreadful."

She has a point. The camera is intrusive, although I try to minimize that by using a very small camera sitting next to my notepad on the table. Some candidates don’t even notice it; others have trouble putting it out of their minds.

This makes me worry about polluting the process by making candidates too uncomfortable. But in some cases, I think the video clips can help readers understand a little better why we form some of the impressions we do in these interviews.

I remain torn about this, and my colleagues on the board remain leery of it. They sometimes find it distracting, too. At times in the past, I’ve talked about video-recording entire interviews — say, with gubernatorial and presidential candidates. But I’ve been talked out of it because those chats can be tense and difficult enough without people playing to a camera — we want the candidates’ undivided attention, and we want to give them ours.

It also makes going off the record — a far more useful tool to editorial writers than to reporters, since we don’t want quotes as much as we want to know what is really on people’s minds — rather awkward. When they are on camera, candidates are unlikely even to suggest going off the record, and we might never even know there was something else we could have learned.

Anyway, this is an experiment — sort of dipping our toe in the video waters — and we’re still evaluating its pros and cons. I’d be interested in your thoughts on that.

Hanging Saddam

What do you think when you hear the news that Saddam Hussein has been sentenced to death? Do you:

  • Fear the violent reaction to come from Sunnis?
  • Volunteer to bring the rope?
  • Think hanging’s too good for him?
  • Think capital punishment is always wrong?Saddamverdict

Here’s the way things like this strike me: I believe capital punishment is wrong, but I also believe
violence can be justified under many circumstances — in the defense of innocents, for instance. Also, he certainly fits in the "if anybody deserves it…" category. Of course, he can’t hurt anybody in prison, as long as he’s held securely enough. But as long as he lives, especially with his defiant attitude, he offers hope to his ex-followers for a restoration to power and privilege (particularly with so many Americans crying for a pullout). And if he’s dead, he’s a martyr to the Ba’ath cause. But is there anyone else those thugs can rally around with the "appeal" he has to them?

In other words, I find it hard to reach a conclusion. What do y’all think?

John Kerry’s second adolescence

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Not being overly fond of all the partisan tit-for-tat that seems to stir so many earnest hearts in the Blogosphere, I’ll first admit that I have not sought out much information about John Kerry’s gaffe.

Of course, you absorb a certain amount without trying. I know what he said, I know what he said he meant to say (which was every bit as revealing of character as what he said), I heard that he said he wouldn’t apologize, and then he did apologize — sort of.

Nothing new in any of that. It just reminded me, in case I had forgotten, why we couldn’t bring ourselves to endorse the senator for president in 2004, even though we disagreed with about 90 percent of what President Bush was doing. (Of all the Democratic candidates who had come in to speak with our editorial board, Sen. Kerry was the least engaging and the most off-putting. Take your pick — Howard Dean, Joe Lieberman, Carol Moseley Braun, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, and any others I can’t think of at the moment — all were more favorably impressive than he.)

But in what little I have absorbed on the subject, one thing has been missing. If someone else has said it, please point me to it.

The thing that struck me immediately at the very first report — before I knew how the GOP was hyping it or anything else; I’m talking about the moment I first heard the words he spoke to those students — I thought he was having a Vietnam flashback. Not to his days in combat, but to the much longer period when he was denigrating his own service and that of others.

Young John Kerry’s peers — to the extent that he would have acknowledged having any — thought of soldiers drafted to go to Vietnam pretty much the way Mr. Kerry spoke of today’s soldiers last week.

Yes, he took a commission in the Navy and went over as an officer and a gentleman and did his part, and God bless him for that. But based upon his actions afterward, I don’t think the preppie mindset toward the average grunt ever went away.

Anyway, that’s what flashed through my mind.

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It’s a joke; he meant to say ‘Bush’

Poor politicians. When they say something horrible about our troops, they are reviled. When icons of the press say even worse things, it’s just a blip, if that.

Check out what Seymour Hersh said in a speech in Montreal. In case you missed it, he essentially said the "baby-killers" that so many Americans fled to Montreal to avoid becoming were nothing compared to the homicidal maniacs we send to Iraq: "(T)here has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq."

This was brought to my attention by the WSJ’s OpinionJournal. The link said, "Maybe It’s Just a Botched Joke."

Sanford vs. Floyd column

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The difference between Sanford and Floyd

By Brad Warthen
Editorial Page Editor
ONE DAY last week, I was trying to explain the politics of our state to a visitor from the West Coast. That’s not quite the proverbial visitor from Mars, but it was the best I could do in real life.
    Anyway, I couched Gov. Mark Sanford’s appeal to voters in terms of white South Carolinians’ fierce aversion to anyone telling them what to do — especially the “government,” which many continue to see as an entity outside themselves, rather than something that serves their collective will. That’s the psychological (as opposed to the economic) reason why ours was the first state to secede from the Union. Our mamas and daddies can tell us what to do, but no outsider better try.
    Hence the allure of a doctrinaire libertarian such as the governor, who continues to lead Sen. Tommy Moore in the polls. All the governor has to do is say he’d keep the government from taking your money away from you, and he’s got us — or enough of us to win. Few stop to think: “Wait — the government is us. We elect it, and it only spends money on what we demand.”
    But here’s what’s wrong with my neat explanation: The governor is pushing a radical idea that most South Carolinians don’t want: public money going to private schools. And why is that on the agenda at all? Because rich folks from New York City and other foreign parts, folks who don’t give a rip about what happens to South Carolina one way or the other, think it would be neat to force that experiment on our state and see what happens.
    It’s not just about the governor, of course. These same rich Yankee ideologues are trying to buy up part of the Legislature, and intimidate the rest of it, in order to advance their plan to use our state as their lab rabbit.
    The ancestors of many Sanford supporters donned gray and butternut and started shooting to keep Northerners from telling them how to do things. But this doesn’t seem to bother many of their descendants.
    So maybe it’s not about populist, anti-government rhetoric after all. If it were, the governor would post his biggest victory margin in Lexington County, but after his loss there to Oscar Lovelace in the GOP primary, he’ll be doing well to squeak by in my home county. I’m seeing a lot of “Republicans for Tommy Moore” signs on my way to and from work each day.
    If it were purely about the ideology, Karen Floyd would also be leading by a big margin. She, after all, would be the governor’s go-to person on privatizing education if she becomes state superintendent of education. But while I’m sure she gets a boost from having an “R” after her name, I hear that she doesn’t enjoy the lead that Mr. Sanford apparently does.
    Mrs. Floyd doesn’t have a clue about how to run schools — public or private. I really don’t think she’s even thought about it much — at least not very deeply. Her comments regarding what she would do in office are short on specifics and long on PR-speak. On the main issue that caused the governor to endorse her before the primary race even started, she is evasive to a stunning degree. If I were a voter who actually favored the governor’s voucher/tax credit plan, I wouldn’t vote for her purely because she does everything she can get away with to avoid saying she’s for it.
    And if you’re not a supporter of that idea, then this is a no-brainer: Jim Rex proposes actual reforms, and demonstrates with every word that he knows enough about the system to succeed in making changes that need to be made. Mrs. Floyd, based upon her performance on the campaign trail (since her resume features no educational experience, that’s all we have to go by) would sow confusion and accomplish nothing.
    Mr. Sanford, with all his faults, is better qualified to be governor than Mrs. Floyd is to be a teaching assistant, much less superintendent of education. I think voters can see that. Can’t they?

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Time for a break

This happened a few minutes ago.

I’m rushing around trying to do 10 things and running late on all of them when Nature Calls, and I run into the Men’s room and say "Hi" to the two cleaning ladies in there, step around their cleaning cart on my way to the urinal, start to reach for my zipper a couple of steps out so as to avoid delay, and it hits me:

"Cleaning ladies?"

I pull hand away from zipper just in time, turn on my heel and start babbling apologies on my way back to the door, "Oh, I am so sorry I wasn’t thinking I’m just running around doing so many things that I don’t know what I’m doing and …"

But I’ve hardly taken a step back when I see they’ve both thrown their hands up, and they’re saying, "Oh go ahead take your time we were just leaving we’re going out…" And they fly out the door ahead of me, leaving their cart behind.

Wow. That was really embarrassing. I’ve never been that absent-minded before. It was a new depth.

I’m going to have to slow down, and start considering what I’m doing. And starting next week, I will.

Predictions? What? You think this is a game?

As I so piously state, time and time again, for me it’s not about who will win an election, but about who should win, and we’re just trying to foster constructive conversations about the choices, yadda, yadda, blah, blah.

I mean it; I really do. But there are those who take it all less seriously, and insist upon trivializing the whole process to the level of a reality TV show or some such by making predictions about outcomes. As if anybody could know. And eventually, they wear me down and I make my own prognostications.
This time I’m going to do it a little earlier, since I was gigged by this e-mail today:

Time to put your
guesses to paper (or electronic paper anyway) and eternal scrutiny in guessing
the outcome of the upcoming elections…. In each
case please give the winner’s name. For governor only please also give a
percentage of the vote the winner will receive. Let’s play the feud!

1. Governor (and
percentage of the vote):
2. Lieutenant
governor
3.
Treasurer
4. Education
superintendent
5. Comptroller
general
6. Secretary of
state
7. Adjutant
general
8. Agriculture
commissioner
 
Tie
breakers:
1. The final
breakdown of the U.S. House of Representatives: (e.g. 220 Ds, 215
Rs)

2. The final
breakdown of the U.S. Senate (e.g. 50 Ds, 49 Rs, 1 Ind)

OK, so here are mine:

1. Sanford (57 percent)
2. Bauer
3. Patterson
4. Floyd
5. Theodore
6. Hammond
7. Spears
8. Weathers
Needless to say, I hope I’m wrong on the first four.

The two tie-breaker questions seem ridiculous to me. The number of variables make them as unpredictable as the shifting of the desert sands; I can’t tell you what the dunes will look like in the end. But here goes:

1. 222 Ds, 213 Rs
2. 49 Ds, 50 Rs, and my man Joe!

What do y’all think? I won’t be surprised — or embarrassed — if y’all all do better than I. This is not my thing.

Grady Patterson, Treasurer

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Thursday, Oct. 5, 9:15 a.m. — "I’ve always had a centerpiece of what I do is fairness, and factual. We don’t believe in tellin’ tales, and we believe in being fair to everybody that comes before the board, or any other encounter; and I think that’s the key to what I do, is fairness, is the main thing. And a lot of people don’t feel that way about government, or about anything else…"

Speaking of fair, that’s a pretty fair slice of what our initial endorsement interview with Grady Patterson was like. I say initial, because a few days later he called to request "another bite at the apple." The second interview was much like the first, only much shorter. One other difference — the second time he did come without ever-present aide Trav Robertson, shown looking anxiously over his boss’ shoulder in the photo at the end of this post.

There is a great contrast between Mr. Patterson and opponent Thomas Ravenel that is visible, audible and palpable in the very atmosphere of the room. I’ve put up a couple of short video clips that I believe convey this to a great extent.

The Republican challenger is young, cocky, brash, and fashionably ideological, exhibiting a rich man’s contempt for the usefulness of government. The observer finds it hard to trust his motives for running. The incumbent is elderly, uncertain, unassuming, and harks back to a time when gentlemen conducted their affairs on a basis of personal relationships and mutual trust.

And yet we endorsed the former over the latter, because the first one seems more capable of keeping up with the demands of the job.

Mr. Patterson was generally incapable of expressing why he should be re-elected. He said he had come to tell us about "some new projects" his office was undertaking, but he could only cite the fact that he and his employees check the markets "every day." (See the video.) I asked if that was what was new, and he said that previously they had checked almost every day, but now they checked every day. That was it.

"He doesn’t speak the truth," Mr. Patterson said of his opponent. "He makes up stuff." We asked for specifics, and he said, "Well, … a bunch of it, but I don’t have a list of it or anything." A moment later he made a vague reference to the spat between Mr. Ravenel and John Rainey, chairman of the Board of Economic Advisors. "That’s pretty good proof of what I’m saying, right there," he said.

At one point, he did a pretty fair job of making the perfectly valid point that Mr. Ravenel is an impractical ideologue rather than a pragmatist, but it took me a moment to realize that was what he was saying: "You know, when you operate a government, you’ve got to be factual. You can’t have these theories about it, you’ve gotta be factual. And uh, so, that’s the way I feel about it."

Inevitably, I had to ask him about his age. "I’m in awe of your generation," the ones who beat Hitler and Tojo, I told him. That’s true; I always have been. The time in which such men — Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan and the first George Bush — ran the country was a far better time than what we live in today.

But that time is past. I put it delicately. I eased into it. In fact, this was the point, if you hear the audio recording of the interview, when my own questions became halting, and his answers became firmer. I can play hardball with most people in politics — just ask some of them — but I was brought up to show deference to the elderly. Fortunately, I’ve reached an age at which most people running for office are younger than I am. So an 82-year-old aspirant throws me off my stride a bit.

Still, I slogged on. I asked him about his combat service, noting that my own father was too young for WWII (he went to Vietnam instead). And I’m now a grandfather. So we agreed that 1945 had been awhile back. I asked why he didn’t want to just take the rest he’s earned, and leave the rat race to the younger folks. That started the following exchange:

Mr. Patterson: "I enjoy it, and I think I make a contribution, and I enjoy coming to work every morning and uh, it’s a challenge to us. (Long pause.) And just because the calendar runs, you know, I’m not willin’ to say, ‘Well, I’m gonna quit.’"
Me: "Do you every feel like there’s gonna be a time when uhhhh…"
Mr. Patterson: "Well, there’ll be a time, some day.
Me: "Well, do you think Strom went on too long?"
Mr. Patterson: "I don’t think so."

Let’s just leave it there. No, I’ll end with this: "I’ve served nine different terms," he said. "And I’m proud of my service."

So he should be. But he should have retired before now. He’s earned it.

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League provides some useful info

Alert reader and conscientious citizen Elaine Frick makes the following request:

I think you should publicize the new League of
Women Voters site www.vote411.org   I just
ran into it.  I’ve been a League member for years and always appreciate their
creative ways of making the voting process more educated and accessible for all
of us. 

 
Copied from their description is the
following:   
 
"… a
one-stop-shop" for election related information. It provides nonpartisan
information to the public with both general and state-specific information on
the following aspects of the election process:
  • Absentee ballot information
  • Ballot measure information (where applicable)
  • Early voting options (where applicable)
  • Election dates
  • Factual data on candidates in various federal, state and local races
  • General information on such topics as how to watch debates with a critical
    eye
  • ID requirements
  • Polling place locations
  • Registration deadlines
  • Voter qualifications
  • Voter registration forms
  • Voting machines

An important component of VOTE411.org is the polling place locator, which
enables users to type in their address and retrieve the poll location for the
voting precinct in which that address is located. The League has found that this
is among the most sought after information in the immediate days leading up to,
and on, Election Day.

Consider it done. I’ll put it in the election links at left.

Joe says it ain’t so

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Y
ou may have noticed the brief item in today’s paper under S.C. Politics Today that noted the fact that, as shown above, there was a "Republicans for Tommy Moore" sign out in front of the building where U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson‘s congressional offices are located, on Sunset Boulevard in West Columbia.

The above picture was taken by Mona Chamberlin, The State‘s governmental affairs editor.

Not knowing that she had shot that previously, I resolved to take my own picture today on my way in to work, since I pass the spot almost daily.

So I turned in to the building’s parking lot, got out, walked around to try to get a shot with the smaller Wilson sign in the foreground (as Mona did), and whoa — there was no Wilson sign. That thing’s been there for years, and it was just gone.

I guess Joe decided he could disassociated himself by removing himself from the picture more easily than getting his landlord to ditch the other one.

I shrugged and walked back to the car, and only as I was driving off did I decide it might be good to have a picture of what wasn’t there, so I shot the image below through my vehicle window. Hence the bad angle and lower quality. But if you look closely, you can see the sign frame and little empty hooks dangling, even though it’s all kind of camouflaged by the trees and power lines. Use Mona’s picture as a guide, keeping in mind that mine’s shot from a lower angle.

Politics is weird, ain’t it?

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Put Your Strasse in Your Tasse

Sorry about the bad use of German, but I’m not as good as Emile at slogans. I got this internal e-mail from a fellow employee at The State today:

Guys —
    I apologize for the global, but if you need some inexpensive Christmas gifts, my daughter’s school (collective groan) is selling Columbia’s Iron Brew Coffee, which was voted by Food and Wine magazine as the #7 roaster in the country, and the #1 roaster in South Carolina.
    The price is $8.50 for a 12-ounce bag of ground coffee — due at time of order. Plain or a variety of flavors, including French vanilla, holiday spice and Southern pecan. I need to turn in the order by Nov. 13.
     No more emails, I promise. Just drop by my desk if you’re interested.

Anyway, it made me think of Emile’s campaign (and congrats to Emile, by the way, for getting the Charleston paper’s endorsement), and I tried to think of how he might promote drinking local coffee — or at least, locally marketed coffee. I realize it’s not quite the same, but I found myself reaching for inspiration anyway.

I didn’t arrive. "Put your (blank) in your cup?" "…your mug? … your demitasse?

Hey, forgive me for the digression, but any message that’s headlined "Need some coffee?" grabs my attention and won’t let go.

Libertarians on immigration

Here’s one of the many things that puzzles me about the libertarians who call themselves "conservatives" — you know, the kinds of people who will support Mark Sanford again for governor even though the actual Republican conservatives in the General Assembly can’t work with the man.

These supporters love him particularly because of his anti-government beliefs: If he won’t work with the people who make the laws, fine! They’re government after all, and we hate government. They overlook, of course, the fact that he accomplishes nothing for them by being so ineffective. The government stays the same, and they get to keep griping about it. Best of all possible worlds to them, I suppose. Sort of like the NAACP adopting an anti-flag strategy that is perfectly designed to keep the flag up forever — that way they can complain about it forever, as a raison d’etre.

Anyway, the puzzling thing I was going to talk about is the inconsistency that the libs can’t seem to see. (This is one of many reasons the "left" and the "right" as we currently designate them make so little sense to me.) The folks who cheer the loudest for Mark Sanford and Thomas Ravenel on this blog tend also to be red-meat-eaters on immigration.

Never mind that the governor’s true ideological brethren wouldn’t put a stop to the flow from Mexico.

Check this link from the Cato Institute — real libertarians — that was just sent to me. It’s by one of their resident experts, Daniel T. Griswold, and for those too lazy to follow links, it sort of goes like this:

    At a recent White House ceremony, President Bush put his signature to a bill authorizing 700 miles of additional fencing along the U.S.-Mexican border. The bill supposedly demonstrates the determination of Congress to stop illegal immigration, but like much of its other efforts, the fence legislation is more symbolism than substance….
    Even if we could fence all 2,000 miles of the border with Mexico, illegal immigration would continue because of visa “overstayers.” A third or more of people living in the United States illegally actually entered the country legally and then overstayed their visas. On a typical day, 800,000 Mexicans enter the United States through 43 legal ports of entry along the border. They come to shop, visit relatives, and conduct business. The large majority goes back home within a few days, but a minority stays and disappears into the general population….
    Drastically reducing legal entries from Mexico would be an economic disaster. Mexico is America’s second largest trading partner, and expanding trade and investment ties depend on expanding cross-border visits. Mexican shoppers and tourists have fueled economic growth in U.S. border communities. The only lasting solution to illegal immigration will be to offer a legal alternative.
    If congressional leaders truly want a “secure border,” any enforcement efforts must be combined with comprehensive immigration reform. A temporary worker program of the type supported by President Bush and approved in May by the U.S. Senate would allow peaceful and hardworking people to enter the United States legally instead of illegally….

So if you’re the libertarian type, but you think a fence is a great idea, tell me how that works in your mind…